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    ʻAʻole au e ʻae i kekahi mea, @robbyslaughter, a hoʻopaʻapaʻa i kekahi. ʻOi aku ka liʻiliʻi o ka manawa no ka mea kūʻai aku pūnaewele e kiʻi i ka leka uila ma mua o ka mea kūʻai aku desktop. ʻAʻole noho ka hapa nui o nā mea hoʻohana ma kahi ʻoihana bandwidth kiʻekiʻe, akā hana nā mea kūʻai pūnaewele!

    ʻOi aku ka wikiwiki o ka mea kūʻai pūnaewele no Google Apps i ka ʻimi ʻana i ka leka uila ma mua o ka mea kūʻai aku desktop ma muli o ke ʻano o ka helu ʻana o ka ʻikepili a me ka mana o ke kikowaena e noho nei. Inā ʻimi au me kaʻu papapihi, hiki ke lawe i kekahi mau kekona a loaʻa ka hopena, akā hikiwawe ka Google Apps.

    ʻAe wau i ka paranoia, ʻoiai naʻe. Makemake au e komo i kaʻu leka uila me ka ʻole o kahi pilina pūnaewele.

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    ʻO ka mea hoihoi, ʻoiaʻiʻo hiki i ka mea kūʻai pūnaewele loaʻa hou ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o ka leka uila ma mua o ka mea kūʻai aku desktop, no ka mea, e like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai aia ma ka ʻōnaehana bandwidth kiʻekiʻe. Akā, pono e hoʻouna i kēlā leka uila ma kahi paipu lohi i kāu polokalamu kele pūnaewele, no laila ke manaʻo nei au ʻaʻole ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki! (Inā he mea, ʻoi aku ka lohi ma muli o nā pūnaewele ʻē aʻe ma luna.)

    Ua pololei ʻoe ua ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o ka huli ʻana iā GMail ma mua o ka huli ʻana o Windows no Outlook. ʻO kēia ma muli o ka ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o ka mīkini, akā ma muli o nā algorithm ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi. Ke hoʻopaʻapaʻa nei au inā ʻoe e hoʻopili i ka ʻimi Google Desktop i kāu mea kūʻai leka uila kūloko, ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki ma mua o Gmail.

    Eia hou, loaʻa iā ʻoe ka pilikia inā loaʻa kahi leka e ka ʻōnaehana GMail e hōʻike ʻia iā ʻoe ma kahi pili lohi.

    Eia naʻe, hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa ka maikaʻi o nā ao ʻelua. Inā makemake ʻoe e hoʻohana i ka wikiwiki o ke ao e hōʻoia i ka loaʻa ʻana o kahi leka uila, lele i kāu mea kūʻai pūnaewele. Inā makemake ʻoe e hoʻohana i ka mana computing o ke ao e hana i nā ʻimi wikiwiki ʻana, pono e hiki i kāu mea kūʻai kelepona ke hoʻohana.

    Ua lanakila ka leka uila desktop, i lalo nā lima!

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    E like me Doug pono wau e ʻae a ʻae ʻole.

    ʻO ka mea mua, makemake wau e ʻōlelo i ka loaʻa ʻana i nā wahi āpau ʻaʻole wau e nānā pono e pili ana i ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa ʻana no ka mea hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻohana i ka leka uila i ka wā e hele aku ai, ʻaʻole hoʻopau ka desktop i kēlā.

    Pro desktop - Loaʻa iaʻu nā moʻolelo 3 aʻu e nānā ikaika nei a me nā mea hou aʻe aʻu e nānā ai i kekahi manawa. Hoʻohana wale wau i ka mea kūʻai aku desktop no 1 o lākou a ʻo ia kaʻu moʻohelu hui pūʻulu hana akā ʻo ia wale nō no ka paʻakikī me IMAP. Akā inā ʻaʻole maikaʻi ka loaʻa ʻana o nā 3 āpau ma kahi hoʻokahi. Ua hoʻohana nui au iā Thunderbird i ka wā ma mua a ua hana maikaʻi akā ʻaʻole i manaʻo pono.

    Inā ʻoe e hana me ka nui o ka manawa offline / kūlana a laila maikaʻi ka loaʻa ʻana o ka leka uila akā noʻu iho ʻaʻole wau i loaʻa kahi pilina o kekahi ʻano A ʻo wau ka mea hope aʻu e makemake ai e hana i kaʻu leka uila. No ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi koʻikoʻi (pre wifi i ka lewa) pono kēia, e like me ka hoʻokomo ʻana i kekahi mea ʻē aʻe ma ka ʻāina i hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomau i ka hana.

    Pūnaewele Pro – Ke ʻā nei ka ʻimi ma Gmail, ʻAʻole maikaʻi nā mea ʻē aʻe. He mea paʻakikī ka leka uila pūnaewele Groupwise e pili ana i kēia a i nā manawa he nui e haʻi aku wau i kekahi e kali wau a hiki i kaʻu hana i ka lā aʻe e loaʻa iā lākou kekahi leka uila kahiko. Akā me gmail ʻo ia ka wikiwiki loa aʻu i ʻike ai me ka ʻimi ʻana i ka leka uila no kekahi mea. ʻOliʻoli nō hoʻi au i kaʻu mau kamaʻilio ʻana i kēia manawa ma ia mau hulina akā ʻaʻole ia he 100% kūpono.

    Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole kūpono ka hapa nui o ka overhead āu e kamaʻilio nei i ka hapa nui o ka manawa. Inā ʻoe e ʻōlelo nei i ka hoʻouka ʻana o ka JS/HTML a me nā mea e holo ai i ka pūnaewele, ʻaʻole pono ia i ka hapa nui o ka manawa no ka heluhelu ʻana o kāu kamepiula iā ia mai kahi huna huna a inā ʻoe ma ka kamepiula ʻē aʻe e ʻoi aku ka ʻino. no ka hopu ʻana i ka mea kūʻai aku desktop 🙂 Akā me ka hoʻohana ʻana i ka laʻana o ka webcafe, e loaʻa mau i kāu kamepiula nā mea leka uila i loko o ka cache no laila ʻaʻole ia he pilikia nui. I ka loaʻa ʻana o ka leka uila, e hoʻouna ana ʻo gmail iā ʻoe i kahi mana i ʻoki ʻia (json paha) ma luna o ka leka uila piha piha me nā poʻomanaʻo a pēlā aku.

    ʻO ka mea hoʻohana papapihi (hiki paha iā ʻoe ke hoʻōki iā ia mai ka hana ʻana i kēia, akā ʻaʻole lawa ka pāʻani me nā hoʻonohonoho) e hoʻoiho maʻalahi i nā mea hoʻopili, no laila hiki ke laka ʻia ʻoe e kali ana ma ke kiʻi 10 Meg i hoʻouka ʻia i mua mai kou ʻohana ʻoiai ʻaʻole ka mea gmail. Ua koi ʻia lākou e hopu i ka wā i wehe ai lākou a ʻike i ka mea hiki iā lākou ke haʻalele i ka hoʻopili.

    E like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai, hoʻohana wale wau i ka mea kūʻai aku ʻo GW desktop a no kaʻu mau moʻokāki 2 ʻē aʻe hoʻohana pūnaewele wale nō. Makemake au i kahi honua hybrid kahi e loaʻa ai iaʻu nā pōmaikaʻi o nā mea ʻelua i kūkulu ʻia i hoʻokahi mea maʻalahi e hoʻohana ai i ka mea kūʻai aku akā kānalua e hiki koke mai ana. No laila, ʻoi aku ka lanakila nui o ka Pūnaewele iaʻu a ʻoi aku ka maʻalahi noʻu. Akā ʻokoʻa kēlā me kēia mea hoʻohana.

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    Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole nui ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa ma waena o nā huahana ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi (GMail vs Thunderbird) akā ʻo ia anuu loaʻa i ka mana ʻenehana kiʻekiʻe a me ka hoʻohana.

    No ka laʻana, ʻo ke ala wikiwiki loa e ʻimi ai i kāu leka uila me kahi kuhikuhi kūloko kūloko maoli. No ka wikiwiki o nā lawelawe ʻimi i ke ao, pono ʻoe e kali i kāu polokalamu kele e hoʻoiho a hāʻawi i nā hopena hulina, a laila e kali iā ia e hoʻoiho a hāʻawi i kēlā leka uila. ʻOi aku ka lohi o ka polokalamu kele pūnaewele/Internet ma mua o ka mea ma waena o kou hoʻomanaʻo a me kāu kīkī paʻakikī, no laila e ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o ka leka uila.

    Ma ke ʻano o ka hoʻohana ʻana, ʻoi aku ka nui o kāu hiki ke hana me kahi noi papa e holo ana kekahi mea i loko o ka pahu one o kahi polokalamu kele pūnaewele. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻoi aku ka holomua o nā polokalamu kele pūnaewele i kēlā me kēia lā. Me HTML5, hiki i kēia manawa ke hana i nā mea i loko o ka polokalamu kele pūnaewele hiki iā ʻoe ke hana ma ka pākaukau i loko—ʻo, ʻaʻole wau ʻike, 1993 a i ʻole. ʻOiaʻiʻo, maikaʻi ka hana ʻana o kēia ma *kekahi* kamepiula e holo ana i kāu polokalamu kele pūnaewele, akā ʻaʻole ia me he mea lā ua loaʻa iā mākou kēlā ʻano like ʻole.

    I ka hopena o ka lā, ua like ka mea kūʻai leka uila me ka loaʻa ʻana o kāu waihona ponoʻī i loko o kou hale, akā ʻo ka mea kūʻai aku leka uila e like me ka loaʻa ʻana o hoʻokahi puke i ka manawa i hoʻouna ʻia i ka leka uila. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi ma kēlā me kēia manaʻo e loaʻa kahi mea kūʻai leka uila desktop. Makemake paha ʻoe e "hoʻi i hope" i ka mea kūʻai pūnaewele inā pono ʻoe no ka mea ʻaʻole maʻalahi kāu polokalamu mea kūʻai aku, no laila hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa ka maikaʻi o ka honua.

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    @robbyslaughter, ke kamaʻilio nei au e pili ana i ka paepae, ua hāʻawi wale wau i ka kuhikuhi i nā polokalamu aʻu i hoʻohana ai e hoʻomaʻamaʻa i ka maopopo inā ua hala paha wau i kekahi hopena ʻo nā mea kūʻai leka uila āpau āpau i hoʻoponopono i kekahi o kēia mau pilikia. ʻAʻole wau e noʻonoʻo i kaʻu hihia hoʻohana ponoʻī ʻo ia wale nō a ʻokoʻa ka hoʻohana ʻana o nā mea ʻē aʻe a loaʻa nā pilikia ʻē aʻe iaʻu.

    ʻO ka mea mua ma ka ʻimi ʻana, ʻaʻole ia e ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki ma kahi mīkini kūloko, ʻoiai ʻo ka ʻikepili he kūloko. Inā loaʻa iā ʻoe nā gigs o ka ʻikepili (ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi ʻole o ka mālama ʻana i ka ʻikepili ʻaʻole i hoʻopaʻa maikaʻi ʻia) ʻo ia ka leka uila a i ʻole kekahi mea, no ka mea he kūloko ʻaʻole ia he manaʻo e hiki i kāu kamepiula ke ʻimi maikaʻi iā ia a laila kahi hoʻonohonoho hoʻokele pono ʻia. ʻikepili me ka mana o nā mea he nui ma hope o ia. ʻO ka pili pūnaewele "lohi" (ʻo ia wale nō ka loaʻa ʻana o ka nui o ka ʻikepili me nā mea āu e pono ai i kēlā manawa) hiki ke loaʻa iā ʻoe i kāu mea e pono ai, e like me kā Doug i ʻōlelo ai me kāna mau hopena. I kēia manawa ua loaʻa iā ʻoe nā hopena ʻimi, ʻae ka lawe ʻana i kēlā leka uila hoʻokahi maikaʻi, akā i ka wā i wehe ʻia ai kēlā leka uila 10 kekona i hala aku nei e hoʻokumu i ka mea kūʻai pūnaewele no ka mea e ʻimi mau ana ka pākaukau a laila ʻaʻole ia he mea nui.

    Ke komo mai nā leka uila nui, hiki iā ʻoe ke maʻalahi ma ka pūnaewele no ka mea ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e hoʻoiho iā ia inā ʻaʻole pono ʻoe i kahi e ʻai ai kāu mea kūʻai kelepona kūloko iā ia no kekahi manawa a me ke koena o kāu. ʻAʻole e komo mai nā memo ma muli o ia. ʻAʻole pono e hoʻoiho i nā mea hoʻopili naʻaupō a kekahi e hoʻouna mai iaʻu ʻo ia ka pōmaikaʻi nui loa iaʻu e pili ana i ka leka uila.

    Hiki i nā mea kūʻai lahilahi ke loaʻa i nā ton o nā pōmaikaʻi nui ma luna o kā lākou ʻāpana kūʻai mea kūʻai mānoanoa, ʻoi aku ka nui o ka nui o ka ʻikepili i komo, e hana a ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi ʻole i mea e pono ai lākou. ʻAʻole wau e ʻōlelo i kēlā me kēia hihia hoʻohana he ʻoiaʻiʻo kēia, akā ke manaʻoʻiʻo nei wau ʻo ia kekahi o lākou. E like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai, makemake wau e ʻike i kahi ʻano hybrid piha (ʻo HTML5 ka hapa wale nō) i hana ʻia e hiki ai i ka mea hoʻohana hope ke mana a me ka hiki ke hoʻohana i nā mea ʻelua akā he mau hana nui ia no ka ʻO ka nui o ka waiwai a me ka poʻe a mākou e nānā ai e hoʻokō iā lākou, ʻaʻole lākou e hoʻopau i ko lākou manawa ke manaʻo lākou ua lawa kā lākou mea kūʻai aku.

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    Pono e ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o ka huli ʻana ma ka mīkini kūloko ma mua o ka mīkini mamao. He ʻoiaʻiʻo hiki ke ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o ka mīkini mamao (no ka mea he hui ia o nā mīkini), akā ʻo ka mea palena ʻo ka bandwidth, ʻaʻole ka mana hana.

    E like me ka hoʻohālikelike ʻana, lawe ʻo Google i kaʻu Desktop ma kahi o 0.19 kekona e ʻimi ai i nā mea 262,000. ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke kiʻi iā GMail e hōʻike i ka manawa huli, akā ʻo kēlā me kēia hulina lehulehu Google e lawe ma kahi o 0.27 kekona. He mau piliona helu ia, akā he mau kaukani kamepiula. Akā, e manaʻo mākou he atypical kaʻu mau hopena, a maʻamau hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa, e ʻōlelo ʻo 10x ka wikiwiki ma waho o ka ʻimi mamao. No laila ke nānā nei mākou i kahi hoʻohālikelike o 0.19 kekona i kahi 0.019 kekona wikiwiki.

    Pono ka hoʻoili mamao o ka ʻikepili i ka manawa. Noʻu e hoʻoneʻe i ka ʻikepili ma waena o kahi mea ʻimi hulina mamao a me kaʻu mīkini, aia nā koi latency a me ka bandwidth. Ua hoʻopau wau i ka panel Timeline ma nā Mea Hoʻomohala o Google Chrome, a mai ke kaomi ʻana i ke pihi "Search Mail" i loaʻa ka pane he 0.50 kekona.

    I ka huinanui:

    Huli mamao: 0.50 s (latency) + 0.019 s + Ka manawa hāʻawi = 0.519 kekona
    Huli Kaiakū: 0.19 s + Ka manawa hana = 0.19 kekona

    E ʻike ʻoe i kaʻu hiʻohiʻona ʻaʻole pili i ka wikiwiki o ka huli ʻana. He 100x a i ʻole 1000x a i ʻole koke, a ʻoi aku ka lōʻihi o ka hoʻololi ʻana ma mua o ka huli ʻana ma ka wahi.

    ʻIke wau me he mea lā e moku lauoho ana kāua. He aha ka ʻokoʻa ma waena o ka hapalua kekona me ka hapaʻumi o ke kekona?

    Eia ka pane: he nui.

    ʻO ka mea hope loa, ʻaʻole pili ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa maoli e pili ana i nā mea kūʻai mānoanoa me nā mea lahilahi, akā ʻo ka pākaukau me nā mea kūʻai pūnaewele. ʻAʻole ʻo ka mea kūʻai pākaukau he mea kūʻai mānoanoa. No ka laʻana, ʻoi aku ka māmā o ka protocol IMAP. ʻO ka ʻenehana hoʻonohonoho i hoʻohana ʻia e Exchange/Outlook e hōʻoia i loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi kope piha o kāu pahu leta ma ke ʻano he "faila pahemo" akā hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻokele i nā loli mamao. A ʻo ka mea kūʻai pūnaewele ʻaʻole ia he mea kūʻai lahilahi. Ke kuhikuhi nei ʻoe, mālama ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi i ka nui o nā ʻikepili a hiki ke holo i nā palapala, no laila ʻaʻole me he mea lā ʻo ka mea lahilahi ka lahilahi. Loaʻa iā Gmail 443,000 laina o ka helu JavaScript. He wiwi maoli anei ia?

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    Ua manaʻo wau ʻaʻole mākou e kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā paepae kikoʻī? ʻAʻole ʻo Google desktop ka mea kūʻai leka uila i ka manawa hope aʻu i nānā ai, a ʻoiai he laʻana ia o ka wikiwiki o kekahi mau mea, ʻaʻole ia e loli i ka hana ʻana o nā mea leka uila desktop, e like me ka ʻōlelo ʻana a lāua. ʻO koʻu ʻike a me Doug me lākou, ʻaʻole au i lohe i kekahi e hana maikaʻi ana. ʻAʻole hoʻokō nā hana manaʻo i kahi mea i lanakila i ka lima i ka wā ʻaʻohe mea i kokoke e hoʻokō.

    A ʻo kēia ʻoiaʻiʻo he ʻōlelo hoʻopaʻapaʻa mānoanoa paukū. ʻAʻole maopopo i ka wā i lilo ai nā laina o ke code i kumu hoʻohālikelike no ka lahilahi a mānoanoa paha kekahi mea no ka mea ʻoi aku ka nui o ka hana ʻana i ka hana kaumaha. ʻOiai ʻoi aku ka mānoanoa o nā mea kūʻai pūnaewele me HTML5 ʻaʻole ia e hoʻololi i ko lākou lahilahi me ka hapa nui o ka hana i hoʻolālā ʻia e hana ʻia e ka ʻōnaehana mamao akā i kēia manawa me ke kōkua liʻiliʻi i ka wā hiki.

    ʻO ka manaʻo hoihoi, ʻoiai ua like kaʻu mau manawa pane gmail me kāu, ʻo kaʻu Google Apps no kāu Domain aia ma kahi o 125-150ms.

    E like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai aia nā pono a me nā mea ʻole i nā mea ʻelua akā e ʻōlelo "Ua lanakila ka leka uila desktop, lima i lalo!" He mamao loa ia i ka wā e pili ana i ka hoʻohana maoli a me ka hoʻohana ʻana i nā hihia.

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    Hiki ke hoʻohana ʻia ʻo Google desktop e ʻimi i nā waihona leka uila kūloko. Hoʻohana wau ia (a hoʻohana i kaʻu ana ma luna) e ʻimi i kaʻu hale kūʻai leka a wikiwiki loa.

    I koʻu ʻike pilikino, ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o nā mea kūʻai aku papapihi, ʻoi aku ka hilinaʻi, ʻoi aku ka maʻalahi a loaʻa nā hiʻohiʻona maikaʻi i nā mea āpau. ʻO ka mea ʻokoʻa wale nō ka hiki iā ʻoe ke kiʻi i kahi mea kūʻai pūnaewele mai kahi kamepiula ʻē aʻe, ʻo ia ke kumu maikaʻi e mālama ai i kāu leka uila mai kekahi o kēia mau mea kūʻai aku a mālama i ka synchronized ma nā wahi ʻelua.

    Manaʻo wau no nā mea kūʻai aku ʻaʻole hoʻohana nui i ka AJAX, hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻopaʻapaʻa he lahilahi ka mea kūʻai. Ma hope o nā mea a pau, ʻo ka polokalamu kele pūnaewele i kēlā hihia ke hāʻawi wale nei i nā ʻaoʻao static, a ke hoʻoholo nei ke kikowaena mamao i ka mea e hōʻike ai. Akā inā hoʻouna ʻoe hapalua miliona laina code i ka lolouila o ka mea kūʻai aku e hoʻokō ai, me he mea lā e hoʻomaka ana ka laina. ʻAʻole kēia nā lā kahiko o X Windows, kahi i hiki ai i kāu pahu ke lilo i "kūlana leo". ʻOiaʻiʻo, ke hana ʻia nei ka hapa nui o ka hāpai ʻana e ka polokalamu kele pūnaewele. Hōʻike ʻia kēia e ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke holo i ka Gmail ma kahi polokalamu kele kahiko me ka ʻole e hoʻololi i kahi "ʻike HTML maʻamau."

    ʻO ka ʻaoʻao koʻikoʻi wale nō aʻu e ʻike ai i nā mea kūʻai aku leka uila (ma ka hana a me ka manaʻo) ʻo ia ke komo i kāu leka inā ʻaʻole kāu kamepiula. A no ka mea, ʻaʻohe kumu e loaʻa ʻole ai ka leka uila i ka manawa wale nō, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole ia he mea pōʻino.

    ʻO ka manaʻo o kaʻu pou ʻo ia ka hōʻike ʻana i nā miliona o ka poʻe e hoʻohana wale nei i ka leka uila pili pūnaewele, ʻoiai he nui nā pōmaikaʻi o ka hoʻohana ʻana i kahi mea kūʻai aku ma ke ʻano he kahua leka uila mua. Manaʻo wau ua maopopo iaʻu ua ʻoi aku kēia mau pōmaikaʻi ma mua o ka pono wale nō o ka leka uila ma ka pūnaewele: hiki ke komo mai kahi kamepiula ʻaiʻē. ʻO nā pono ʻē aʻe i ʻike ʻia, e like me ka ʻimi wikiwiki a me ka hoʻihoʻi ʻana, ʻike wale ʻia.

    No laila ke kū nei au ma kaʻu ʻōlelo: "ua lanakila ka poʻe leka uila i ka lima i lalo!" 🙂

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    ʻAe wau me Doug, nele ka huli ʻana ma Outlook (ʻaʻole maopopo i nā mea ʻē aʻe). Me he mea lā aia ʻo Google i ka kuhikuhi ʻana a me ka ʻimi ʻana i lalo, ʻoiai, i kēlā me kēia manawa aʻu e hiki ai ke kuhikuhi i kaʻu papa ponoʻī me ka manaʻolana e wikiwiki i ke kaʻina ʻimi, ʻo kaʻu mau pahu hana holoʻokoʻa. Me he mea lā ua ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o ka mīkini hana ma mua o Google. 🙂

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    Eia mākou i ka makahiki 2011, a ua pau nā mea a pau koe wale nō kāu hoʻopaʻapaʻa paranoia:
    Ka wikiwiki: ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o Gmail ma mua o Outlook i ka hoʻouka ʻana, e like me ka wikiwiki o ka lawelawe leka uila
    Ka manawa: Hāʻawi ʻo Gmail i nā mana āpau āu e ʻōlelo ai ua nalo
    Nā hiʻohiʻona: Gmail me ActiveInbox polokalamu kele pūnaewele hiki ke hoʻopili
    Hiki i ka mea hoʻohana ke hoʻouna a neʻe ma mua o ka pau ʻana o ka hoʻouka ʻana
    Hiki ke hoʻonohonoho me ka huki a hāʻule
    Hiki ke hae no ka hahai
    Hiki ke hoʻonohonoho i nā lula
    Hiki ke hoʻohui i nā memo
    Hiki ke ʻike i nā pae kamaʻilio a i ʻole nā ​​memo pākahi
    etc.
    etc.

    ʻOi aku kēia ma mua o nā hiʻohiʻona leka uila? ʻaʻole. Ua like a wikiwiki paha lākou e haʻalele i ka pilikia o ka hoʻohana ʻana i kahi kikowaena disk kūloko, etc.? ʻAe.

    ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu no ke aha e hana ai ka mea nona ka pilina pūnaewele paʻa i kekahi mea KOE OLE e hoʻohana i kahi ʻōnaehana leka uila ikaika, e like me Gmail+ActiveInbox.

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      ʻAe loa wau i kāu loiloi o Gmail. ʻO kaʻu mea kūʻai pākaukau e like me ka dinosaur-like i ka hoʻohālikelike ʻia me Gmail, ʻoi aku ma nā hiʻohiʻona. Akā naʻe, makemake mau wau.

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      Aia kekahi ʻokoʻa ma waena o nā hiʻohiʻona a me nā palena.

      No ka laʻana, ʻaʻohe hiʻohiʻona ʻano like-by-date ʻo Gmail. Iaʻu, he naʻaupō loa kēlā. Akā ʻaʻohe kumu ʻenehana i hiki ʻole ai iā Gmail ke hana i kēia. ʻAʻole nui ka manaʻo e hoʻopaʻapaʻa i kēia mau hiʻohiʻona, ʻoiai he mau makemake wale nō.

      Eia nō naʻe, aia kekahi mau mea hiki ʻole iā ʻoe ke hana maikaʻi ma nā mea kūʻai leka uila pūnaewele. ʻO kekahi laʻana ʻo ka lawe ʻana i ka ʻikepili. Hoʻopaʻa maoli ka mea kūʻai kelepona i kāu leka uila ma ka ʻāina, kahi e hōʻoia ai ʻaʻole hiki i kekahi mea hāʻawi kapua ke hoʻopau wale iā ia. ʻAʻole kēia he "hiʻona" o ka leka uila papapihi e like me ka palena o ka leka uila ma ka pūnaewele.

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    @Aole hewa

    Aia wau me ka mea kākau. E ho'āʻo wau e kākoʻo iā ia mai ka manaʻo o 2011.

    1) Ka māmā holo.
    Ua ʻae ʻia. Ua hala loa ʻo Gmail i ka wā e hiki mai ana. Akā aia kekahi mau ala e hoʻokau ai ka leka uila iā ia. Kaʻana pūnaewele no hoʻokahi mea. ʻOiai ʻoi aku ka maʻamau a ʻoi aku ka maʻamau hiki iā ʻoe ke mahalo i ka ʻokoʻa e hana ai ia manawa. Eia kekahi, ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o ka gmail inā heluhelu ʻoe i hoʻokahi a ʻelua paha leka i ka manawa. Akā e hoʻolilo iā 20 a i ʻole 30 a i ʻole 50 a ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o ka pākaukau. E kaomi wale ʻoe i lalo a ke kaha nei ʻoe i ka heluhelu ʻana i ka nānā ʻana/heluhelu i ka manawa like. No hoʻokahi a ʻelua paha leka, manaʻo wau ʻo gmail ka lanakila.

    2) Ka manawa.
    Ua hoʻomaikaʻi ʻo Gmail i ka hapa mua. Akā, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu inā ʻo wau wale nō, makemake wau i ke kaomi Send- dont care approach a desktop e hāʻawi ai. Aneane aia ma gmail akā ʻaʻole loa. No ka ʻaoʻao ʻelua ma waho, paʻa mau ia ke ʻole ʻoe e hoʻohana i ka leka uila googles ʻaʻole wau. Akā ʻo ia ka mea e hoʻokaʻawale i ka laina ma waena o ka pākaukau a me ka leka uila.

    3) Nā hiʻohiʻona.
    ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu pehea ʻoe e ʻōlelo ai he ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o ka pūnaewele/gmail. Hele mai ia i ka makemake i koʻu manaʻo

    4) Hoʻomalu
    ʻAʻole loa e loli (manaʻo wau!!)

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    Makemake au i nā mea kūʻai leka uila papapihi ʻoiai ʻaʻole wau e ʻae loa ʻaʻole i lanakila ʻo Gmail i nā mea kūʻai aku desktop ma nā hiʻohiʻona (he nui aku nā mea i ʻōlelo ʻia ma kēia ʻatikala, e like me ka hoʻohui ʻana me Google Docs no ka laʻana).

    Manaʻo wau ʻo ka hiʻohiʻona maikaʻi loa o nā mea kūʻai aku desktop ʻo ia ka mea e ʻae lākou e hoʻohui i nā pahu leka uila mai nā kikowaena like ʻole (e like me, nā leka uila leka uila) i hoʻokahi homogene, mea hoʻohana maʻalahi kahi e hiki ai ke kauo ʻia nā leka uila ma waena o nā pahu komo a hoʻonohonoho ʻia i loko o nā waihona like ʻole. ʻO nā leka uila he mau hale kūʻai offline, e like me ka mea i ʻōlelo ʻia.

    He nīnau maʻalahi kaʻu e pili ana i nā mea kūʻai aku desktop i ʻike ʻole hiki i kekahi ke pane, no laila e hoʻāʻo wau ma aneʻi

    - Hiki paha ke hoʻonohonoho i 2 mau leka uila leka uila me hoʻokahi leka uila?

    No ka mea:

    E ʻōlelo mākou he hale kūʻai e-kūʻai mākou a makemake mākou e loaʻa i nā leka uila kākoʻo o ka mea kūʻai aku ma kā mākou mau leka uila leka uila, a maopopo he hoʻokahi wale nō kā mākou leka uila kākoʻo i hoʻokumu ʻia, hiki iā mākou ke hoʻonohonoho iā ia me nā mea kūʻai aku ʻelua?

    ʻAʻole wau i manaʻoʻiʻo ʻo mākou wale nō nā hoa ʻoihana ma ka honua e makemake e hana pēlā, no laila no ke aha e hiki ʻole ai i kekahi ke pane mai?

    ʻO MacMail a me Outlook 2007 kā mākou mea kūʻai pākaukau, inā he ʻokoʻa kēlā. ʻAʻole pono, manaʻo wau, no ka mea, ua hoʻonohonoho ʻia ka leka uila i loko o nā mea kūʻai aku desktop a ʻaʻole i loko o ka panel admin e-store. ʻO ia ke kumu aʻu i manaʻo ai he pono ke hana i kēlā?

    Ua nīnau pinepine au i koʻu hale kūʻai 'kūkākūkā lawelawe lawelawe pilikino' e pili ana i kēia. Ua hele mai ʻo ia me kekahi mau pane kūpono ʻole a i kēia manawa ua ʻōlelo wau 'pono wau e nīnau iā Apple, a i ʻole Microsoft no nā hiʻohiʻona holomua'… ʻōpala.

    Ua hoʻopuka pū wau i ka nīnau maanei (ma Quora) a ma Twitter i kekahi mau manawa, ʻaʻohe pane i kēia manawa.

    Hiki iaʻu ke hoʻāʻo wale a ʻike inā pono ia. Akā naʻe, ʻaʻole akamai kaʻu hoa pāʻoihana a ke manaʻo nei au e kōkua iā ia e hoʻonohonoho i ka leka uila ma kāna Outlook ke hoʻi mai ʻo ia. No laila, makemake wau e ʻike ma mua inā hiki ke kaʻana like i ka leka uila e like me kā mākou makemake, no laila hiki iaʻu ke hana i kahi manaʻo ʻē aʻe ma mua o ka nānā wale ʻana iā ia ke hana ʻole.

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      Inā hoʻohana ʻoe i ka IMAP ma mua o ka POP, e hoʻonohonoho ka mea kūʻai aku ma mua o
      download. Hoʻohana au i ka IMAP me Google Apps a loaʻa iaʻu he 4 mau mea kūʻai aku ma nā ʻano like ʻole
      nā mea hana me ka pilikia ʻole.

      Doug

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        Douglas, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu ʻo wau pū me ʻoe. ʻAe, inā mākou e hoʻohana i ka IMAP ma kahi o POP? Hiki iā mākou ke hoʻohana i ka IMAP ma MacMail a me Outlook?

        Hiki iaʻu ke hoʻohana i kēlā me kēia polokalamu. Eia naʻe, makemake au e noho me MacMail no ka mea ʻo ia kaʻu mea i maʻa a ma muli o nā pono i ʻōlelo ʻia ma luna:-)

        ʻO kaʻu hoa pāʻoihana naʻe, hiki ke hoʻohana wale iā Outlook. Hoʻololi app. ʻaʻole ia he koho. He kanaka akamai loa, ʻike a pili pono i ka mea kālepa, akā hoʻopā wale ʻo ia i nā kamepiula ke loaʻa iā ia. ʻAʻole makemake ʻo ia e hoʻolilo i ka manawa no ka hoʻohana ʻana i kahi ʻōnaehana kamaʻāina ʻole. No laila e hoʻonohonoho wau i kā mākou leka uila kākoʻo ma Outlook nona a ʻo ka interface he 100% ʻoihana e like me ka mea maʻamau iā ia.

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            No laila, ʻo kāu pane: ʻAe, hiki ke hoʻonohonoho ʻia nā mea leka uila ʻelua o kā mākou papa leka uila me ka helu leka uila like i ka manawa like, inā mākou e hoʻohana i ka IMAP ma kahi o POP?

            ʻO ia kāu e ʻōlelo nei?

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          Ps. a pono e loaʻa iaʻu nā leka uila kākoʻo ma kaʻu mea kūʻai aku papapihi (ua hoʻonohonoho mua ia a hana maikaʻi ʻia) e like me ka mea i ʻōlelo ʻia, me kaʻu mau leka uila ʻē aʻe ma kaʻu interface MacMail. ʻO ia ke kumu o kaʻu nīnau.

          Hiki paha iaʻu ke kākoʻo i nā leka uila i kaʻu moʻokāki gmail a laila i kaʻu mea kūʻai kelepona akā ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke pane aku i nā nīnau a ka mea kūʻai mai kaʻu mea kūʻai aku desktop inā ʻaʻole i hoʻonohonoho pono ʻia. ʻAʻole naʻe ka nīnau pehea e hoʻonohonoho ai (maʻalahi ia) akā inā hiki ke hoʻonohonoho i kā mākou mau mea leka uila papapihi 2 me ka leka uila kākoʻo hoʻokahi.

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