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    E hōʻole wau i hoʻokahi manawa, @robbyslaughter, a hoʻopaʻapaʻa i kekahi. ʻOi aku ka liʻiliʻi o ka manawa no ka mea kūʻai aku pūnaewele e kiʻi i ka leka uila ma mua o ka mea no ka mea kūʻai aku. ʻAʻole noho ka hapa nui o nā mea hoʻohana ma kahi ʻoihana bandwidth kiʻekiʻe, akā hana nā mea kūʻai pūnaewele.

    ʻOi aku ka mea kūʻai aku pūnaewele no Google Apps, ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki ma ka ʻimi ʻana i ka leka uila ma mua o ka mea kūʻai ma ka papakaukau no ke ʻano o ka helu ʻana o ka ʻikepili a me ka mana o ka pūnaewele e noho nei. Inā wau e ʻimi me kaʻu papapihi, hiki ke hala i kekona ke loaʻa ka hopena, akā wikiwiki ʻo Google Apps.

    ʻAe ʻae wau i ka paranoia. Makemake wau e hiki i kaʻu leka uila me ka pili ʻole o ka pūnaewele.

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    ʻO ka mea hoihoi, he ʻoiaʻiʻo hiki i ka mea kūʻai pūnaewele loaʻa hou ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o ka leka uila ma mua o ka mea kūʻai papamahi, no ka mea e like me kāu i ʻōlelo ai ma nā ʻoihana bandwidth kiʻekiʻe. Akā pono nō e hoʻouna i kēlā leka uila i lalo i kahi paipu lohi i kāu polokalamu kele pūnaewele, no laila ke hoʻopaʻapaʻa wau ʻaʻole ia he wikiwiki loa. (Inā he mea, pono e hoʻolohi ma muli o nā pūnaewele keu i luna.)

    Pololei kāu ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o ka huli ʻana ma GMail ma mua o, mea, Huli Windows no Outlook. Loaʻa kēia i nā lakohana wikiwiki, akā ma muli o nā algorithms ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi. Kūkākūkā wau inā e pili ʻoe i ka huli ʻo Google Desktop i kāu mea kūʻai leka uila, ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki ma mua o Gmail.

    Hoʻohui, loaʻa nō iā ʻoe ka pilikia ke loaʻa kahi memo e nā ʻōnaehana o GMail e hōʻike ʻia iā ʻoe ma kahi pili lohi.

    Eia nō naʻe, hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa ka ʻoi loa o nā ao ʻelua. Inā makemake ʻoe e leverage i ka wikiwiki o ke ao e hōʻoia i ka loaʻa ʻana o kahi leka uila, e lele i kāu mea kūʻai pūnaewele. Inā makemake ʻoe e leverage i ka mana helu o ka ʻōpua e hana i nā hulina wikiwiki, pono i kāu mea kūʻai ʻoneki e hoʻohana.

    Lanakila ka leka uila o desktop.

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    E like me Doug, e ʻae wau a hōʻole hoʻi.

    ʻO ka mea mua makemake wau e ʻōlelo i ke kiʻi ʻana ma nā wahi āpau ʻaʻole wau e nānā pono e like me ke noi ʻana i ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa ma nā ʻano ʻelua paha no ka mea hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻohana i ka leka uila ke hele aku, ʻaʻole hoʻopau ka papapihi i kēlā.

    Pro desktop - He 3 mau moʻokāki aʻu e nānā ikaika ai a me nā mea hou aʻe aʻu e nānā ai i kekahi manawa. Hoʻohana wale wau i kahi mea kūʻai ʻoneki no 1 o lākou a ʻo ia ka helu pūʻulu o kaʻu hana akā ʻo ia wale no no ka flaky me IMAP. Akā inā ʻaʻole maikaʻi inā maikaʻi nā mea āpau i kahi hoʻokahi. Ua hoʻohana wau i ka Thunderbird ma mua i ka wā ma mua a ua holo pono akā ʻaʻole maikaʻi iki.

    Inā ʻoe e hana me ka nui o ka manawa offline / nā kūlana a laila maikaʻi ia e loaʻa ai ka leka uila akā noʻu iho he kakaʻikahi wau me ka pili ʻole o kekahi ʻano a ʻo wau ka mea hope loa aʻu e makemake ai e hana nei ma o kaʻu leka uila. No nā mea huakaʻi kaumaha (wifi ma ka lani) he mea pono kēia, e like me ke kau ʻana i kahi mea ʻē aʻe i hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomau i ka hana.

    Pūnaewele Pro - Ke ʻāwīwī nei ka ʻimi ma Gmail, akā ʻaʻole maikaʻi nā mea ʻē aʻe. Pākuʻi ikaika ka leka uila ʻo Groupwise e pili ana i kēia a i nā manawa he nui e haʻi wau wau i kekahi e kali wau a hoʻomaka wau e hana i ka lā aʻe e loaʻa iā lākou i kahi leka uila kahiko. Akā me ka gmail ʻo ia ka wikiwiki loa aʻu i ʻike ai me ka huli ʻana i ka leka uila no kekahi mea. Hauʻoli nō hoʻi wau i kaʻu mau kamaʻilio ʻana i kēia manawa i kēlā mau hulina pū kekahi akā ʻaʻole ia he 100% pili.

    Eia pū kekahi ke manaʻo nei ʻaʻole nui ka hapa nui o ka overhead āu e ʻōlelo nei i ka hapa nui o ka manawa. Inā ʻoe e kuhikuhi nei i ka hoʻouka ʻana o ka JS / HTML a me nā ʻano e like me ia e holo nei i ka pūnaewele, pono ʻole ia i ka manawa nui loa e heluhelu ai kāu kamepiula mai kahi cache a inā ʻoe ma ka kamepiula o haʻi e ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi. e hopu i kahi mea kūʻai aku ma ka papakaukau using Akā me ka hoʻohana ʻana i kahi mea ma ka launa pūnaewele, loaʻa i kāu kamepiula pūnaewele nā ​​mea pūnaewele me ka cache ʻaʻole pono ia e lilo i pilikia nui. Ke hiki mai nei i ka loaʻa maoli ʻana o ka leka uila, e hoʻouna ana ʻo gmail iā ʻoe i kahi mana trimmed (ʻo json paha) ma luna o ka leka uila piha me nā poʻomanaʻo a me nā mea.

    ʻO ka mea kūʻai ʻoneki (malia paha hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻokū iā ia mai ka hana ʻana i kēia, akā ʻaʻole i pāʻani pono me nā hoʻonohonoho) e hoʻoiho aunoa i nā hoʻopili, no laila e laka ʻia paha ʻoe e kali ana ma ke kiʻi 10 Meg i lawe ʻia mai kou ʻohana ʻoiai ʻaʻole ka kanaka leka uila koi ʻia e hopu i kēlā i ka manawa a lākou i wehe ai a ʻike he aha lā lākou e hiki ai ke nānā ʻole i ka hoʻopili.

    E like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai, hoʻohana wale wau i ka mea lawelawe ʻo GW ma luna a no kaʻu mau moʻokāki ʻē aʻe e hoʻohana pūnaewele wale nō. Makemake nui wau i kahi honua hybrid kahi e hiki ai iaʻu ke kiʻi i nā pōmaikaʻi o nā mea ʻelua i kūkulu ʻia i hoʻokahi maʻalahi e hoʻohana i ka mea kūʻai aku akā kānalua e hiki koke mai ana. No laila ʻo wau ka pūnaewele ʻo ka mea lanakila nui loa a ʻano maʻalahi ia noʻu. Akā ʻokoʻa i kēlā me kēia mea hoʻohana.

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    Manaʻo wau ʻaʻole nui ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa ma waena o nā huahana i ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi (GMail vs Thunderbird) akā ʻo wai anuu Loaʻa iā ia ka mana loea kiʻekiʻe a me ka hoʻohana.

    ʻO kahi laʻana, ʻo ke ala wikiwiki e huli ai i kāu leka uila me kahi papa kuhikuhi kūloko maoli. No ka wikiwiki o ka lawelawe ʻana o nā lawelawe ʻimi i ke ao, pono ʻoe e kali no kāu mea huli pūnaewele e hoʻoiho a hāʻawi i nā hopena ʻimi, a laila e kali iā ia e hoʻoiho a hāʻawi i kēlā me kēia leka uila. ʻOi aku ka lohi o ka hoʻopili pūnaewele / pūnaewele ma mua o ka mea ma waena o kāu hoʻomanaʻo a me kāu paʻa paʻa, no laila e ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o ka leka uila o ka papakaumaka.

    I nā ʻōlelo o ka hoʻohana ʻana, ʻoi aku ka nui o nā mea i hiki iā ʻoe ke hana me kahi papapihi noi e holo ana kekahi mea i loko o ka pahu one o kahi pūnaewele pūnaewele. Sure, ke holomua nei nā mea nānā pūnaewele i kēlā me kēia lā. Me HTML5, hiki i kēia manawa ke hana i nā mea i ka polokalamu kele pūnaewele hiki wale nō iā ʻoe ke hana ma ka papapihi ma — a, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu, ʻo 1993 paha. He ʻoiaʻiʻo, maikaʻi loa kēia hana ma * kekahi * kamepiula e holo nei i kāu polokalamu kele pūnaewele, akā ʻaʻole naʻe me he mea lā he nui maoli kā mākou ʻokoʻa āpau.

    I ka hopena o ka lā, like ka mea kūʻai leka uila ʻoneki me ka loaʻa ʻana o kāu waihona ponoʻī i kou hale, akā ʻo ka mea kūʻai leka uila e like me ka loaʻa ʻana o hoʻokahi puke i ka manawa i hāʻawi ʻia i nā leka uila. He ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o kēlā me kēia mea ke loaʻa i kahi mea kūʻai leka uila ʻoneki. Makemake paha ʻoe e “hoʻi i hope” i ka mea kūʻai pūnaewele inā pono ʻoe no ka mea ʻaʻole mākaukau kāu polokalamu ʻoihana desktop, no laila hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa nā mea ʻoi loa o ka honua.

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    @robbyslaughter, e kamaʻilio pū ana wau e pili ana i ka paepae, hāʻawi wale wau i ke kuhikuhi i nā polokalamu aʻu e hoʻohana nei e hoʻomaʻemaʻe inā paha ua hala wau i kahi hopena e lilo nā mea kūʻai leka uila ʻoneki āpau i hoʻoponopono i kekahi o kēia mau pilikia. ʻAʻole nō wau e noʻonoʻo i kaʻu hihia hoʻohana ponoʻī ma ke ʻano hoʻokahi a hoʻohana ʻē aʻe i nā mea ʻokoʻa a loaʻa nā pilikia ʻē aʻe i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe iaʻu.

    ʻO ka mea ma ka ʻimi ʻana, ʻaʻole ia e wikiwiki i ka mīkini kūloko, ʻoiai he kūloko ka ʻikepili. Inā loaʻa iā ʻoe nā gigs o ka ʻikepili (ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi ʻole o ka mālama ʻia ʻana o ka ʻikepili ʻaʻole i hoʻomākaukau pono ʻia) e leka uila a i ʻole kekahi mea, no ka mea ʻaʻole kūloko ia mea ʻaʻole hiki i kāu kamepiula ke huli ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi a laila holo pono ka hoʻonohonoho hoʻonohonoho ʻikepili me ka mana o nā mea he nui ma hope o ia. ʻO ka pilina pūnaewele "lohi" (ʻo ia wale nō ka loaʻa ʻana o kahi helu o ka hōʻemi ʻia o ka ʻikepili me nā mea wale nō āu e makemake ai i kēlā manawa) hiki ke loaʻa iā ʻoe ka mea āu e makemake ai, e like me kā Doug i ʻōlelo ai me kāna mau hopena. I kēia manawa ke loaʻa iā ʻoe nā hopena ʻimi, ʻae e lawe nei i kahi leka uila maikaʻi, akā i ka wā i wehe ai wau i kēlā leka uila 10 kekona i hala aku nei e hana i ka mea kūʻai pūnaewele ke ʻimi nei ka ʻoneki a laila ʻaʻole ia he mea nui.

    Ke hiki mai nā hoʻopili leka uila nui, hiki iā ʻoe ke lawelawe maʻalahi ma ka pūnaewele ʻoiai ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e hoʻoiho iā ia inā ʻaʻole ʻoe e pono ia ma kahi e noke ai kāu mea lawelawe ma kāu wahi no kekahi manawa a me ke koena o kāu ʻaʻole e hele mai nā leka ma muli o ia. ʻAʻole pono e hoʻoiho i nā hoʻopili lapuwale a kekahi e hoʻouna mai iaʻu ka pōmaikaʻi nui loa e pili ana i ka leka uila.

    Hiki i nā mea kūʻai aku lahilahi ke loaʻa he ton o nā keu pōmaikaʻi nui ma luna o kā lākou mānoanoa kūʻai mea kūʻai aku, ʻoiai ke pili nā tona o ka ʻikepili, hana a ʻoi aku i nā mea maikaʻi ʻole e hoʻomaikaʻi ai iā lākou. ʻAʻole wau e ʻōlelo i kēlā me kēia hihia hoʻohana he ʻoiaʻiʻo kēia, akā manaʻo wau ʻo kēia kekahi o lākou. E like me kaʻu e ʻōlelo nei makemake wau e ʻike i kahi ʻano hybrid piha (HTML5 e lilo i hapa wale nō) i hana ʻia e hiki ai i ka mea hoʻohana hope ke kaohi a me ka hiki ke hoʻohana i nā mea ʻelua akā nui kēlā mau hana no ka mea ʻaʻole ka nui o ka loaʻa a ʻo ka poʻe a mākou e nānā ai e hoʻokō iā lākou ʻaʻole paha lākou e hoʻonele i ko lākou manawa ke manaʻo lākou ua lawa kā lākou mea kūʻai aku e like me.

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    ʻOi aku ka wikiwiki o ka huli ʻana ma ka mīkini kūloko ma mua o ka mīkini mamao. He ʻoiaʻiʻo hiki i ka mīkini mamao ke ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki (ʻoiai he ʻāpana o nā mīkini), akā ʻo ka mea kaupalena ka bandwidth, ʻaʻole ka mana hana.

    Ma ke ʻano he hoʻohālikelike, lawe ʻo Google i kaʻu Desktop ma kahi o 0.19 kekona e ʻimi ai i nā huahana 262,000. ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke kiʻi iā GMail e hōʻike i ka manawa huli, akā ʻo ka huli ʻana o ka lehulehu ma Google ma ka liʻiliʻi he 0.27 kekona. ʻO ia he mau piliona o ke komo ʻana, akā he mau kaukani kamepiula ia. Akā e kuhi mākou he hopena ʻole kaʻu mau hopena, a maʻamau hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa, e ʻōlelo 10x i ka wikiwiki mai ka huli mamao. No laila ke nānā nei mākou i ka hoʻohālikelike o 0.19 kekona i kahi wikiwiki 0.019 kekona.

    Hoʻololi mamao o ka ʻikepili i ka manawa. Noʻu e neʻe i ka ʻikepili ma waena o kahi mea hoʻolako ʻimi mamao a me kaʻu mīkini, aia nā latency a me nā bandwith koi. Ua kī wau i ka papa manawa Timeline i nā Mea Hana Hoʻolālā o Google Chrome, a mai ke kaomi ʻana i ke pihi "Huli Leka" i ke kiʻi nei i kahi pane aia nō he 0.50 kekona.

    I ka huinanui:

    Huli Mamao: 0.50 s (latency) + 0.019 s + Manawa manawa = 0.519 kekona
    Huli Kūloko: 0.19 s + Manawa hoʻoili = 0.19 kekona

    E ʻike ʻoe i kaʻu hiʻohiʻona ʻaʻole ia he mea nui i ka wikiwiki o ka huli ʻana. Hiki iā 100x a i ʻole 1000x a i ʻole manawa koke, a ʻoi aku ka lōʻihi o ka hoʻolilo ʻana ma mua o ka ʻimi kūloko.

    ʻIke wau me he mea lā ke kaʻawale nei mākou i nā lauoho. He aha ka ʻokoʻa ma waena o ka hapalua kekona a me ka ʻumi o ka kekona?

    Eia ka pane: he nui.

    ʻO ka mea hope loa, ʻaʻole ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa maoli e pili ana i ka manoanoa a me nā mea kūʻai aku lahilahi, akā ʻo ka papakaumaka me nā mea kūʻai aku pūnaewele. ʻAʻole ka client client mānoanoa. ʻO kahi laʻana, māmā māmā ka protocol IMAP. Hoʻohana ka ʻenehana syncingization e Exchange / Outlook i kāu kope piha o kāu pahu leta ma ke ʻano he "faila waiho" akā e ʻae iā ʻoe e hoʻokele i nā hoʻololi ma kahi mamao. A ʻo ka mea kūʻai pūnaewele ʻaʻole ia he mea kūʻai lahilahi. Ke kuhikuhi nei ʻoe, mālama nā mea nānā i kahi ʻikepili weliweli a hiki ke holo i nā palapala, no laila ʻaʻole ia me he mea lahilahi lā ka mea kūʻai aku lahilahi. Loaʻa iā Gmail Nā laina 443,000 o ke code JavaScript. Ua lahilahi anei kēlā?

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    Ua manaʻo wau ʻaʻole mākou e kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā paepae kikoʻī? ʻAʻole ʻo Google desktop kahi mea kūʻai leka uila i ka manawa hope aʻu i nānā aku ai, a ʻoiai ʻo ia kahi hiʻohiʻona o ka wikiwiki o kekahi mau mea, ʻaʻole ia e loli i ka hana maikaʻi ʻana o nā mea kūʻai leka uila e like me ka ʻōlelo a nā mea ʻelua. koʻu a me ko Doug ʻike me lākou, a ʻaʻole wau i lohe i kekahi e hana maikaʻi ana iā ia. ʻAʻole e hana i nā hana theoretical i mea lanakila i ka lima i ka wā i hoʻokokoke ʻole ai kekahi e hoʻokō.

    A he mānoanoa lahilahi kēia. ʻAʻole maopopo i ka manawa i lilo ai nā laina o ke code i kumu wehewehe no ka lahilahi a manoanoa paha o kekahi mea ma mua o kahi e hana ai ka hāpai kaumaha. ʻOiai e mānoanoa ana nā mea kūʻai pūnaewele me HTML5 ʻaʻole ia e loli he lahilahi nō ia me ka hapanui o nā hana i hoʻolālā ʻia e hana ʻia e ka ʻōnaehana mamao akā i kēia manawa me ke kōkua iki ma kahi kūloko ke hiki.

    ʻO kahi memo hoihoi, ʻoiai ʻo kaʻu mau manawa pane gmail e like me kāu, ʻo kaʻu Google Apps no kāu Domain ma kahi o 125-150ms.

    E like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai aia he maikaʻi a he maikaʻi ʻole hoʻi i nā mea ʻelua akā e ʻōlelo "Ua lanakila ka leka uila o Desktop, nā lima i lalo!" he ala wale nō ia e pili ana i ka hoʻohana maoli a hoʻohana i nā hihia.

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    Hiki ke hoʻohana ʻia ʻo Google desktop e huli i nā waihona leka kūloko. Hoʻohana wau (a hoʻohana ia i kaʻu ana ma luna) e ʻimi i kaʻu hale kūʻai leka a wikiwiki loa ia.

    I koʻu ʻike ponoʻī, ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o nā mea kūʻai o ka ʻoneki, ʻoi aku ka hilinaʻi, ʻoi aku ka maʻalahi a me nā hiʻohiʻona maikaʻi aʻe i nā ʻano āpau. ʻO ka mea koe wale nō hiki iā ʻoe ke kiʻi i kahi mea kūʻai pūnaewele mai kahi kamepiula ʻokoʻa, kahi kumu maikaʻi e mālama ai i ka hiki i kāu leka uila mai kekahi o kēia mau mea kūʻai aku a mālama ʻia e hoʻopili ʻia i nā wahi ʻelua.

    Manaʻo wau no nā mea kūʻai aku ʻaʻole hoʻohana nui i ka AJAX, hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻopaʻapaʻa he lahilahi ka mea kūʻai aku. Ma hope o nā mea āpau, ʻo ka polokalamu kele pūnaewele i kēlā hihia ke hāʻawi nei i nā ʻaoʻao kūpaʻa, a ke hoʻoholo nei ka mea lawelawe mamao i ka mea e hōʻike. Akā inā ʻoe e hoʻouna moku hapalua miliona laina o ke kuhi i ke kamepiula mea kūʻai aku nāna e hoʻokō, me he mea lā e hoʻomaka ana ka laina e blur. ʻAʻole kēia nā lā kahiko o X Windows, kahi e hiki ai i kāu pahu ke lilo i "terminal dumb." ʻOiaʻiʻo, ke hana ʻia nei ka hapa nui o nā hāpai kaumaha e ka polokalamu kele pūnaewele. Hōʻike ʻia kēia ma ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke holo iā Gmail i kahi polokalamu kele pūnaewele kahiko me ka ʻole o ka hoʻololi ʻana i kahi "ʻike HTML maʻamau."

    ʻO ka hemahema koʻikoʻi wale nō kaʻu e ʻike ai i nā mea kūʻai leka uila (ʻoi aku ka hana a me ke kiʻi) hiki i kāu leka uila ke loaʻa ʻole kāu kamepiula. A ʻoiai ʻaʻohe kumu e loaʻa ʻole ai nā leka uila i ka hihia, manaʻo wau ʻaʻole maikaʻi kēia.

    ʻO ke kuhi o kaʻu pou e hōʻike ai he mau miliona o ka poʻe e hoʻohana wale nei i ka leka uila, ʻoiai he nui nā pōmaikaʻi i ka hoʻohana ʻana i kahi mea kūʻai papamahi ma ke ʻano o kāu kahua leka uila mua. Manaʻo wau ua hoʻomaopopo wau ua ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o kēia mau pōmaikaʻi ma mua o ka pono hoʻokahi wale nō o ka leka uila pūnaewele: hiki ke kiʻi ʻia mai kahi kamepiula hōʻaiʻē. ʻO nā mea maikaʻi ʻē aʻe i ʻike ʻia, e like me ka ʻimi wikiwiki a me ke kiʻi ʻana, ʻike wale ʻia.

    No laila ke kū nei wau i kaʻu ʻōlelo: "E lanakila ka lima o nā mea kūʻai leka uila desktop!" 🙂

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    ʻAe like wau me Doug, nele ka huli ʻia ma Outlook (ʻaʻole maopopo i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe). ʻIke paha ʻo Google i ka helu ʻana a me ka ʻimi ʻana i lalo, akā, i kēlā me kēia manawa ke ʻae wau i ka indexing ʻana ma kaʻu ʻoneki ponoʻī me ka manaʻolana o ka wikiwiki i ka ʻimi noiʻi, kaʻu mau pahu hana holoʻokoʻa. ʻIke paha ʻo Google he wikiwiki wikiwiki ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki ma mua o kaʻu, e hele i ka helu. 🙂

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    Eia mākou i 2011, a ʻo nā mea āpau akā ua hala ʻole kāu paio paranoia:
    ʻO ka wikiwiki: ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o Gmail ma mua o Outlook i ka hoʻouka ʻana, e like me ka wikiwiki o ka lawelawe ʻana i ka leka
    Manawa: Hāʻawi ʻo Gmail i nā hiki āpau āu e ʻōlelo ai ua nalowale
    Hiʻona: Hiki iā Gmail me ka polokalamu kele pūnaewele ʻoInInbox
    Hiki i ka mea hoʻohana ke paʻi a hoʻouna a neʻe i mua o ka pau ʻana o ka hoʻouka hoʻopili
    Hiki ke hoʻonohonoho me ka huki a me ke kulu
    Hiki hae no ka ukali
    Hiki ke hoʻonohonoho i nā lula
    Hiki ke hoʻohui i nā memo
    Hiki ke ʻike i nā pae kamaʻilio a i ʻole nā ​​leka pākahi
    etc.
    etc.

    ʻOi aku anei kēia ma mua o nā hiʻohiʻona leka uila o ka papapihi? aʻole. Kūlike paha lākou a wikiwiki e haʻalele i ka hassle o ka hoʻohana ʻana i kahi kikowaena disk kūloko, a pēlā aku. Ae.

    ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu ke kumu e hana ai kekahi mea e pili mau i ka pūnaewele i kekahi mea KAI hoʻohana i kahi ʻōnaehana leka uila ikaika, e like me Gmail + ActiveInbox

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      ʻAe like wau me kāu loiloi o Gmail. Me he mea lā dinosaur like kaʻu mea kūʻai aku ma ka hoʻohālikelike ʻana iā Gmail, keu hoʻi i nā hiʻohiʻona. Eia naʻe, makemake au i ia.

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      Aia he ʻokoʻa ma waena o nā hiʻohiʻona a me nā palena.

      ʻO kahi laʻana, ʻaʻohe hiʻohiʻona hiʻohiʻona-a-ka lā o Gmail. Iaʻu, naʻaupō loa kēlā. Akā ʻaʻohe kumu ʻenehana i hiki ʻole ai iā Gmail ke hana i kēia. ʻAʻohe kumu nui e hoʻopaʻapaʻa nei i kēia ʻano hiʻohiʻona, ʻoiai he makemake wale lākou.

      Eia nō naʻe, aia kekahi mau mea hiki ʻole iā ʻoe ke hana maikaʻi ma nā mea kūʻai leka uila hoʻokumu pūnaewele. Hoʻokahi laʻana o ka lawe ʻike ʻikepili. Mālama maoli kahi mea kūʻai papakaukau i kāu leka uila ma kahi wahi, kahi e hōʻoia ai ʻaʻole hiki i kekahi mea hoʻolako ʻōpua ke holoi ʻole iā ia. ʻAʻole kēia he "hiʻohiʻona" o ka leka uila papamona e like me ka palena o ka leka uila pūnaewele.

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    @Notnefarious

    ʻO wau nō me ka mea kākau. E hoʻāʻo wau e kākoʻo iā ia mai ka manaʻo o 2011.

    1) Wikiwiki.
    ʻAe. Ua hala ʻo Gmail i kona iho ʻana iā ia. Akā aia kekahi mau ala e kuʻi ai ka leka uila ʻoneki iā ia. Kaʻana pūnaewele no hoʻokahi mea. ʻOiai ʻo ka loaʻa ʻana o nā mea hou ʻole pinepine hiki iā ʻoe ke mahalo i ka ʻokoʻa e hana ai ia manawa. Eia kekahi, ke ʻōlelo nei wau ua ʻoi aku ka wikiwiki o ka gmail inā ʻoe e heluhelu ana i hoʻokahi a i ʻole mau leka i kēlā me kēia manawa. Akā e hoʻolilo iā ia he 20 a i ʻole 30 a 50 paha a hoʻokau ka papapihi iā ia. Kaomi wale ʻoe i lalo a ke kaha nei ʻoe i kēia manawa ke heluhelu ʻia ma ke nānā mua ʻana / heluhelu ʻana i ka manawa like. No hoʻokahi a ʻelua paha mau leka uila, ke kuhi nei au ʻo gmail ka mea lanakila.

    2) Manawa.
    Ua hoʻomaikaʻi ka gmail ʻae i ka hapa mua. Akā, ʻaʻohe wau inā ʻo wau wale nō, makemake wau i ka kaomi Send- dont care kokoke i ka ʻoneki e hāʻawi ai. ʻAneʻane ma laila i ka gmail akā ʻaʻole maikaʻi. No ka ʻāpana offline ʻelua, paʻa mau ia ke ʻole ʻoe e hoʻohana i nā leka uila ma waho pūnaewele aʻu e makemake ʻole ai. Akā lahilahi maoli ka laina ma waena o ka ʻoneki a me ka leka uila.

    3) Hiʻona.
    ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu pehea ʻoe e ʻōlelo nei he ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o ka hiʻohiʻona o ka pūnaewele / gmail. E iho i lalo i ka makemake i koʻu manaʻo

    4) kaohi
    ʻAʻole e loli (koho wau !!)

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    Makemake wau i nā mea kūʻai leka uila ʻoneki ʻoiai ʻaʻole wau e kūlike ʻole i ka hoʻokūkū ʻole ʻana ʻo Gmail i nā mea kūʻai ma ka ʻoneki ma nā hiʻohiʻona (ʻoi aku ka nui ma mua o ka mea i ʻōlelo ʻia ma kēia ʻatikala, e like me ka hoʻopili ʻana me Google Docs no kahi laʻana).

    Manaʻo wau ʻo ka hiʻohiʻona ʻoi loa o nā mea kūʻai aku ʻoneki ka ʻae ʻana iā lākou e hoʻohui i nā pahu leka uila mai nā wahi like ʻole (e like me, nā leka uila ʻoihana) i hoʻokahi homogen, ke ʻano launa hoʻohana kahi e huki ʻia ai nā leka uila ma waena o nā pahu leta a hoʻonohonoho ʻia i nā waihona like a pēlā aku. he hale kūʻai nā leka uila, e like me ka mea i ʻōlelo ʻia.

    He nīnau maʻalahi kaʻu e pili ana i nā mea kūʻai papapihi kahi mea hiki ʻole i kekahi ke pane, no laila e hoʻāʻo wau ma aneʻi

    - Hiki paha ke hoʻonohonoho i nā mea kūʻai leka uila ʻelua me kahi leka uila?

    No ka mea:

    E ʻōlelo mākou he hale kūʻai e a makemake mākou ʻelua e loaʻa i nā leka uila kākoʻo o kā mākou mea kūʻai leka uila, a maopopo leʻa he hoʻokahi wale nō leka uila kākoʻo i hoʻokumu ʻia, hiki iā mākou ke hoʻonohonoho iā ia me nā mea ʻelua o ka papapihi?

    ʻAʻole wau i manaʻoʻiʻo ʻo mākou wale nō ka poʻe ʻoihana i makemake e hana i kēlā, no laila no ke aha e hiki ʻole ai i kekahi ke pane?

    ʻO kā mākou mea kūʻai aku papa MacMail a me Outlook 2007, inā he ʻokoʻa kēlā. ʻAʻole paha ia, no ka mea ua hoʻonohonoho ʻia ka leka uila i loko o nā mea kūʻai aku ma ka papakaukau a ʻaʻole ma ka papa kuhikuhi e-store admin. ʻO ia ke kumu i manaʻo ai wau he maikaʻi ke hana i kēlā?

    Ua noi pinepine wau i kaʻu kūkā lawelawe lawelawe mea kūʻai aku pilikino e-hale kūʻai e pili ana i kēia. Ua hele mai ʻo ia me kekahi mau pane pili pono ʻole a pane mai nei e pono wau e nīnau iā Apple, a iā Microsoft paha no nā hiʻohiʻona holomua '... ʻōpala.

    Ua kau wau i ka nīnau ma aneʻi (ma Quora) a ma Twitter i mau manawa, ʻaʻohe pane i kēia manawa.

    Hiki iaʻu ke hoʻāʻo a ʻike inā holo pono. Eia naʻe, ʻaʻole akamai kaʻu ʻoihana ʻoihana a manaʻo wau e kōkua iā ia e hoʻonohonoho i ka leka uila ma kāna Outlook ke hoʻi mai ʻo ia. No laila makemake wau e ʻike ma mua inā hiki ke kaʻana like i ka leka uila e like me kā mākou e makemake ai, no laila inā ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke noʻonoʻo me kahi manaʻo ʻē aʻe ma mua o ka nānā maka ʻana iā ia ke hana ʻole ia.

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      Inā hoʻohana ʻoe i IMAP ma mua o POP, e hoʻopili ka mea kūʻai aku ma mua o
      hoʻoiho. Hoʻohana wau iā IMAP me Google Apps a loaʻa i nā mea kūʻai aku ʻehā ma nā ʻokoʻa
      hāmeʻa me nā pilikia ʻole.

      Doug

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        Douglas, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu ʻo wau pū me ʻoe. He ʻae paha kēlā, inā hoʻohana mākou iā IMAP ma kahi o POP? Hiki iā mākou ke hoʻohana iā IMAP ma MacMail a me Outlook?

        Hiki iaʻu ke hoʻohana i kēlā me kēia polokalamu. Eia naʻe, makemake au e noho me MacMail no ka mea ʻo ia ka mea i maʻa iaʻu a no nā mea i ʻōlelo ʻia i luna aʻe nei :-)

        ʻO kaʻu hoa hana ʻoihana, hiki wale nō ke hoʻohana iā Outlook. Ke hoʻololi nei i ka polokalamu. ʻaʻole ia he koho. He mea mākaukau loa ʻo ia, pili a pili pono i ka mea kālepa, akā pili wale ʻo ia i nā kamepiula ke pono ʻo ia. ʻAʻole makemake ʻo ia e hoʻolilo manawa e hana ai pehea e hoʻohana ai i kahi ʻōnaehana kamaʻāina ʻole. No laila e hoʻonohonoho wau i kā mākou leka uila kākoʻo iā Outlook nona a ʻo ke kikowaena he 100% ʻoihana e like me nā manawa maʻamau nona.

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            No laila kāu pane: ʻAe, hiki i ka ʻelua o kā mākou mea kūʻai leka uila i hoʻonohonoho ʻia me ka helu leka uila like i ka manawa like, inā mākou e hoʻohana iā IMAP ma kahi o POP?

            ʻO ia kāu e ʻōlelo nei?

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          ʻO Ps. a pono wau e loaʻa nā leka uila kākoʻo pū kekahi ma kaʻu ʻoneki desktop (ua hoʻonohonoho mua ʻia a hana maikaʻi ia) e like me ka mea i ʻōlelo ʻia, a me kaʻu moʻokāki leka uila ʻē aʻe i kaʻu mahele MacMail. ʻO ia ke kumu o kaʻu nīnau.

          Hiki paha iaʻu ke kākoʻo i nā leka uila i kaʻu moʻokāki gmail a laila i kaʻu mea kūʻai ʻoneki akā ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke pane i nā nīnau a nā mea kūʻai mai kaʻu mea kūʻai aku inā ʻaʻole hoʻonohonoho pono ʻia. ʻAʻole naʻe ka nīnau pehea e hoʻonohonoho ai (maʻalahi ia) akā inā hiki ke hoʻonohonoho ʻia kā mākou mea kūʻai leka uila ʻelua me ka leka uila kākoʻo hoʻokahi.

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